ChatLLM vs Poe

ChatLLM

• People who want many frontier models at a low per-user price
• Teams that want chat, an agent and app building in one subscription
• Developers who want an API that routes between models

Poe

• Comparing many AI models without a subscription to each one
• Text, image and video models under a single points balance
• Developers who want one API key for models from many labs

ChatLLM

• There is no free plan or free trial. Billing is monthly at $10 per user, or $20 per user with Pro.
• Usage runs on credits: Basic has 20,000 a month, and heavy models, images, video and agent tasks use them faster. A set of lighter models stays unlimited.
• Basic limits the Abacus AI Agent to 3 tasks of limited complexity and Abacus AI Studio to 3 conversations. Pro removes both caps.
• Abacus.AI states that it does not give refunds based on the output or performance of its models and agents.

Poe

• Usage is metered in compute points, from 10 thousand a day on the lowest plan to 8.25 million a month on the highest; add-on points are sold separately.
• Prices vary by region: the plans page says the final price depends on regional taxes and currency conversion.
• The plans page does not say how many points a free account receives.
• US dollar prices here cover the two lowest plans, as listed on the US App Store; the three larger plans were shown only in rupees.

ChatLLM

100+ models with automatic routing

Chat with models from OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, xAI and open-weight labs, or leave the picker on Auto and RouteLLM chooses a model for each task.

Abacus AI Agent

A general-purpose agent that builds and hosts apps from a description, creates slides, documents and research reports, and automates work with tasks and triggers.

Image and video generation

Image models include Nano Banana Pro, GPT Image and FLUX. Video generation runs through Abacus AI Studio with models such as Veo, Kling and Seedance.

Documents, data and web search

Analyzes uploaded PDFs, Word and PowerPoint files, charts data from CSV and Excel files, searches the web and runs generated code in a playground beside the chat.

Team workspace and connectors

Invite any number of users at the per-user price, organize chats and files in projects, and connect Slack, Microsoft Teams, Google Drive, SharePoint, Confluence and other systems.

Mobile apps, extension and desktop tools

iOS and Android apps with voice mode, a Chrome extension, and Abacus AI Desktop with a coding agent and CLI are included with the subscription.

Poe

Many models, one account

Reaches models from OpenAI, Anthropic, Google and other labs, plus image and video generators, with one sign-in and one points balance.

Multi-bot chat

Compare answers from several models and combine bots for a task inside a single chat thread. Chats can be private or shared as a group chat.

Image and video generation

Creates images and video with generators such as FLUX, Ideogram, Veo and Runway from inside the same app.

Custom bots

Build and share your own bots, with custom knowledge bases if needed. Poe's App Store listing cites more than 1 million custom bots.

Web search

A search mode returns answers drawn from the web, and bots can search for current news.

Poe API

An OpenAI-compatible endpoint reaches hundreds of models and bots with one key. Subscribers spend their existing points on it at no additional cost.

ChatLLM

• Basic$10

  per user / month

  Every chat, image and video model, 20,000 credits a month, 3 AI Agent tasks of limited complexity and limited Abacus AI Studio use.

• Pro$20

  per user / month (Basic plus a $10 upgrade)

  30,000 credits a month, unrestricted Abacus AI Agent and Studio use while credits last, a stronger agent and the always-on SuperComputer.

• Abacus.AI EnterpriseFrom $5000

  billing period not stated

  The separate enterprise platform for organizations that need enterprise features, sold through the sales team.

Poe

• Free$0

  A smaller points allowance than subscribers get, across free and subscription bots.

• 10 thousand points/day$4.99

  per month, or $49.99 per year (US App Store prices)

  The entry plan, listed as Basic on the App Store: more messages, more models and each bot's maximum input size and chat history.

• 660 thousand points/month$19.99

  per month, or $199.99 per year (US App Store prices)

  A monthly pool of 660 thousand points to spend across any model or bot.

• 1.65 million points/month₹4,999

  per month, or ₹49,900 per year (as shown in India)

  A larger monthly pool. The US dollar price was not shown when the plans page was read from India.

• 3.3 million points/month₹9,999

  per month, or ₹99,900 per year (as shown in India)

  A larger monthly pool. The US dollar price was not shown when the plans page was read from India.

• 8.25 million points/month₹24,999

  per month, or ₹249,900 per year (as shown in India)

  The largest pool. The US dollar price was not shown when the plans page was read from India.

ChatLLM

• Other savings

  $7 for the first month of Basic

  New subscribers are charged $7 instead of $10 for the first month, then $10 billed monthly. The discounted month comes with 14,000 credits instead of 20,000.

Poe

• Annual discount

  Save 17% with yearly billing

  Poe's plans page marks yearly billing as saving 17% against monthly billing. On the US App Store the lowest plan is $49.99 a year or $4.99 a month.